CIARA (with Chris Stedman)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2021
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In episode 2 of Pop Pantheon, host DJ Louie XIV addresses the veritable uproar from the KatyCats following last week's episode. He then briefly reviews the concept of the Pop Pantheon tiers before being joined by author and professor Chris Stedman to discuss the Princess of Crunk&B, Ciara. Louie and Chris dissect the idea of "flops" in the context of Chris' Pitchfork piece, "The Enduring Appeal of Pop Stars Who Flop", the trajectory of Ciara's career from centrist pop star to flop to critical darling and gay icon, the unjust tension projected onto women of color in pop who move between genres, and Ciara's resilience and longevity in the fickle and ever-shifting pop landscape over the last twenty years. Finally, they debate which tier Ciara belongs in in the official Pop Pantheon.
Read Chris' piece, "The Enduring Appeal of Pop Stars Who Flop", on Pitchfork: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-enduring-appeal-of-pop-stars-who-flop/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze the music, legacy, and cultural impact of all your favorite pop stars. |
| 0:20.1 | I'm your host, DJ Louis X-14th, |
| 0:22.3 | and I'm a DJ, writer, and all-around pop music fanatic. |
| 0:25.9 | I've spent my entire life and career thinking about, |
| 0:28.6 | dissecting, and being obsessed with pop stars. |
| 0:31.3 | Their music, their legacies, how they relate to one another, |
| 0:34.4 | to the larger pop musical landscape, |
| 0:36.2 | and to culture more broadly. |
| 0:40.0 | What separates an icon from a mere superstar? |
| 0:44.8 | Why does some careers become the soundtrack to our lives, and why do others flop? |
| 0:48.7 | Whose work in legacy transcends time, and whose feel stuck in it? |
| 0:54.9 | Every episode of Pop Pantheon, we'll devote an entire episode to a pop icon, from Titans of the Genre like Beyonce and all the way down to, uh, lesser Titans, like Nicole Scherzinger. Each episode, |
| 1:02.0 | you'll hear a little breakdown from me, and then some distinguished guests and I will chop |
| 1:05.8 | it up about their careers, discographies, public personas, live performances, music videos, feuds, tweets, you name it. |
| 1:13.3 | And at the end, we'll turn pop into fantasy football, make our final judgment, and place them in |
| 1:18.6 | the official Pop Pantheon. |
| 1:20.6 | Welcome, everyone, to episode two of Pop Pantheon. I am so excited to be here again with you. And I want to start off by saying |
| 1:32.4 | thank you so, so much to everyone who listened to the last episode, who subscribed, who shared |
| 1:39.1 | it. We literally charted on the Apple podcast music chart, which was a gag and a half. |
| 1:48.9 | I couldn't fucking believe it. |
| 1:50.4 | So thank you so much to everybody that tuned in for not letting me flop. |
| 1:55.4 | You know, I really appreciate that. |
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