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RFK Jr Podcast

CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou

RFK Jr Podcast

Robert Kennedy Jr

Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou trades stories with RFK Jr in this episode.

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0:00.0

John Kiriaku, former CIA officer, former senior investigative of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,

0:07.6

former counterterrorism consultant for ABC News. John was responsible for the capture in Pakistan

0:14.1

in 2002, Abu Zubeida, who was then believed to be the third ranking official in Al-Qaeda.

0:22.4

In 2007, Kiriaku blew the whistle on the CIA's torture program,

0:28.8

telling ABC News that the CIA tortured prisoners, a torture was officially US government policy,

0:37.1

that the policy had been approved by then-president George W. Bush. He became the sixth whistle

0:43.4

blower indicted by the Obama administration under the Espionage Act. A law designated to punish

0:50.1

spies, he served 23 months in prison as a result of that revelation. In 2012, Kiriaku was honored

0:59.8

with the Joe A. Callaway Award for Civic Courage, an award given to individuals who quote advanced

1:07.1

truth and justice despite the personal risk it creates, and quote, and by the inclusion of his

1:14.1

portrait in the artist Robert Chetterley's series of Americans who tell the truth, which features

1:21.2

notable truth tellers throughout American history. He won the band's center, U.S. paper

1:27.2

stages first amendment award in 2015, the first blueprinted national whistle blowing prize for

1:34.1

bravery and integrity and public interest in 2016, and the Sam Adams Award for integrity intelligence

1:42.0

also in 2016. You are an incredibly prolific writer. I've spent a summer vacation in 2001

1:52.3

in maximum security prison in Puerto Rico, you know, for my litigation against the Navy for the

1:59.1

bombing of the A because yeah, but it was one of the greatest summers in my life because I didn't

2:04.7

have a cell phone. I didn't have to make decisions and I got to sit there and write. I assume some of

2:10.4

you writing took place in prison although a lot of it did. There's nothing else to do.

2:16.7

Yeah, and I was like, yeah, they could act if there's nothing else to do. He's the author of the

2:22.2

reluctance by my secret life in the CIA's war on terror. Another book, doing time like a spy,

2:29.5

how the CIA talking to his survivor thrive in prison. The convenient terrorist Abu Zubat with the

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