You guys do go through training on if you find yourself in an interrogation or torture situation.

And I'm wondering what if anything somebody can apply in their own day-to-day life that you learn there,

meaning this, in our own minds, and I'm not equating these things at all, but you know exactly what I mean.

The world is

caving in on us. I just lost my job. My spouse left me. Both those things happen. Whatever it is,

I'm going through my own form of internal torture, and I don't mean to equate the things. I'm trying

to delineate a lesson learned from the most extreme situation that we can apply in a less extreme

situation in our lives. So what can be learned from what you learned about going through

interrogation or torture that someone could apply in their own life in their own somehow small

way when they're going through their form of mental torture or anxiety or worry?

So there are two really powerful tools that we learned in our resilience. through their form of mental torture or anxiety or worry.

So there are two really powerful tools that we learned in our resistance training.

And resistance is what you're talking about.

Resisting the fear of torture.

Because oftentimes when you're trying to forcefully interrogate somebody, it's the fear of the unknown that makes them fall apart.

It's not actually when they're getting

slapped or getting punched. It's when they're sitting in the chair and they don't know what's

coming next. And that's what really gets into your head. And that's part of the psychedelic or the

psychological manifestation of torture in advance of physical torture. And that's what that's exactly what you're saying, Ed, when you say that the world is

caving in upon us, what that means, you can relate to the person who's sitting in the chair

before the torture starts, where they're like, oh, what's coming next?

The world is collapsing.

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