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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

CIA's Secret Drug War, Exposed

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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This week we’re speaking to Pulitzer-Prize winner Greg Grandin about the Trump Administration’s regime-change war in Venezuela, which now is mired in controversy not just because we’re trying to overthrow a foreign government yet again, but also because Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth presided over a blatantly unconstitutional strike on a speedboat in the Caribbean.

Useful Idiots: Can you walk us through what Trump is doing right now in Venezuela and what is motivating him?

Greg Grandin: The big picture is the America First movement, which imagines that the United States no longer superintends a global liberal political economy in which everybody plays by the rules. That’s happened in the past, and Latin America is key to that.

But then, of course, there’s Venezuela and there’s oil. There was a split within the Trump administration between so-called moderates, who are tied to Chevron, and the war party, Miller, Rubio, and Hegseth. I think those speedboat attacks were the war party’s attempt to preempt any normalization of relationships with Venezuela.

And with Rubio, it’s a confluence of two different strands. One is he was a neocon before he became America First. But he’s also from South Florida, and he’s got deep ties to the Cuban community. And Venezuela is seen as the first step towards taking out Cuba, denying it its oil. So he’s doing it under the rubric of the War on Drugs, which of course is not Donald Trump. That’s a fifty year war.

Behind every single horror that Donald Trump represents exists a long train of U.S. presidents that had first put in the policies that make what Trump does today possible. And that’s nowhere clearer than in the Drug War, which started formally with Richard Nixon in 1973. So there’s many things flowing into it.

Useful Idiots: Do you think Trump will succeed with these plans in Venezuela?

Greg Grandin: The momentum to get Maduro out is quite strong and surprisingly orchestrated, which included the Nobel Peace Prize Committee giving María Corina Machado the prize, and she immediately fulfilled her role as everybody’s worst expectation of what could possibly happen. I can’t imagine any other Peace Prize winner immediately embarking on an alliance with Donald Trump to stage a coup. But that’s where we are.

I think that Trump wants Venezuela settled. That either means Maduro’s gone and some provisional government favorable to the United States is in power, or it means the Chevron faction within the Trump administration keeps Maduro and establishes some semblance of normalcy and keeps the oil pumping.

Now deportation flights have restarted after being halted for a little while. That’s where I’m a little bit dubious about whether Trump is going to go all in on Rubio’s visions. They don’t have enormous support in the United States. It doesn’t have support in the MAGA base. And obviously Hegseth is having all of these problems. The leaking of the footage of that double-tap speedboat killing suggests there’s deep discontent within the military…

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00:00 Intro

00:59 Friday Free-For-All

01:18 Hillary Clinton mocks her own students for opposing genocide

07:30 Greg Grandin interview

07:54 Pete Hegseth's war crimes

31:32 Marco Rubio claims Hezbollah is working in Venezuela



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm Katie Halper.

0:08.0

I'm Mary Mate. Thanks for being here. Our website is Useful Idiots Podcast.com. Go there to support

0:13.4

the show and get bonus content. Coming up, we'll be speaking to historian Greg Grandin about

0:18.2

the Trump administration's regime change war in Venezuela,

0:25.4

which now is mired in controversy, not just because we're trying to overthrow a foreign government yet again, but also because defense secretary Pete Higseth is in the hot seat because he presided

0:31.5

over a blatantly unconstitutional strike, so unconstitutional that it was like doubly unconstitutional, the initial

0:38.1

strike on one of these boats in the Caribbean. Most people agree that's against the law. But to top it off,

0:43.6

when there were survivors of the initial strike in one of these incidents, the U.S. military struck

0:49.9

again. And Pete Hagsath claims, does it just the fog of war? Nothing to see here, but it's

0:55.8

becoming a scandal. So Greg Randon will join us to discuss that in a whole lot more.

0:59.5

But before we speak to Greg, we're going to bring you our weekly segment Friday free-for-all.

1:04.0

And for people who are free subscribers, you get a Friday sum of it. And that is in the form of a preview.

1:12.2

And for the rest of it, subscribe at useful idiotspodcast.com.

1:18.1

This one is just such a wacky clip.

1:22.3

We had to play it.

1:24.2

Hillary Clinton is still talking about the kids, the youth, who she says just don't understand

1:30.7

their history when it comes to Israel, Palestine, and keep getting brainwashed by social media.

1:35.9

And that's why they oppose Israel and Gaza, not say, I don't know, the images they see every

1:41.2

single day of shredded children with U.S. made bombs.

1:44.5

But anyway, let's hear from Hillary yourself. Here she is.

1:47.7

That our students, smart, well-educated young people from our own country, from around the

1:55.0

world, where were they getting their information? They were getting their information

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