What he really was was a very important intelligence asset for the United States, particularly

for the CIA.

When the DEA was founded in the early 1970s, Noriega was like the guy that they needed to

sort of curb the rising, I guess the rising issue of narco-trafficking coming from South America.

Welcome back to Change Agents, an Iron Cloud original, presented by Firecracker Farm.

Today's episode is about the life of a triple spy in the center of

of the U.S.'s drug war. And my guest today is Killian Dunn. Now, one thing I want to add,

that the interview you are about to hear was recorded before the recent U.S. operation in

Venezuela that resulted in Nicholas Maduro's capture. In the conversation, Killian discusses

Manuel Noriege

and draws parallels to the situation like Venezuela's. And the historical analysis remains relevant

even as events unfold. So, let's go. The year, almost 2026, I actually think, I'm going to rely on you to do this.

We're going to have to paint with some broad brushes and go back in time a little bit.

I think people would recognize the name, Manuel Noriega, specifically my generation.

I'm not so sure how recognizable it is as you go

back in future generations. I don't know if my children who were in their late teens, early 20s

would even recognize it. So maybe let's start with an understanding of who Manuel Noriega was

and where he sat in the world, I mean, at this point, three, four, five generations ago.

Yeah.

And now you're also spot on.

Most people, so I'm 29, you know, most people my age, especially people younger, even

a little bit older.

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