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They say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day to thicken that line, or at least make it a double or triple line.

Now here's your line jumping host, Eric Mattaxie.

I have a very special guest today. As you know, on Miracle Mondays, we try to have someone on who believes in miracles, who's maybe experienced some miracles, whose life itself is a miracle.

Today, I am thrilled to have in the studio with me all the way from Pasadena, California,

Che-Anne-H-N. How do I describe Chey-on? He's the founder and president of Harvest International Ministry,

a worldwide apostolic network of churches in over 60 nations. My goodness. He's also the international

chancellor of Wagner University. He's received his master's and doctorate in ministry from

Fuller Theological Seminary. He's written many books. He's been

married for 40 years to his wife, Sue. They have four adult children, six grandchildren.

I think that says it all. Cheon, welcome to the program. Well, thank you. What an honor to be on

your show. Listen, it's my honor to have you. I've known you for many, many years. You haven't known of me, but I've known of your ministries. What was the one with fire in the title? I can't remember that or the, it was, or teen mania or what was? It was something you did here in New York like 12 or 13 years ago. Well, we did the call New York. That's what it was. The call New York.

And was the call New York? Yeah, 2001. That's, you know what? 2001. Yeah, after 9-11. That is 18 years ago. Yeah, and it's interesting because initially, when we came to mobilize the pastors,

actually, they were very, very rude.

They said, we don't need the call to come in.

And then after 9-11 hit, they said, we need to gather together and have a solemn assembly.

We need to come together and repent of our sins.

And before we knew it, over 100,000 people showed up in Flushing Meadow.

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