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Morning, glory, and evening, Grace, America.

I'm Hugh, Hewitt.

That music means it's the last broadcast hour of the week,

both on radio and on the

Salem News Channel of the Hillsdale Dialogue. The Hillsdale Dialogue has been going on for many

years. Dr. Larry Arne, president of Hillsdale College and I are deep into the first volume of the

six-volume memoir of Winston Churchill of World War II, and we're probably at his lowest moment,

though he does come close to death's door

a couple of times during the war. But last week, in 1936, Edward the 8th had abdicated. Churchill

had been booed relentlessly obliged to sit down. He was not heard by the House, even though he'd

held every great office of state except Prime Minister. and he said his influence had gone to zero.

And Dr. Ernst, we wanted to pick up there because he was spent.

Winston Churchill was a spent force in 1936.

How did he regain his influence, having fallen so far?

It's important for everyone to understand this because the revisionists want us to think

that Churchill caused World War II.

So the short answer is he talked and he wrote.

In politics, in life, there are two ways to get on with somebody.

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