Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College

Podcast Network. More episodes at podcast.com podcast.hillsdale.edu or wherever you

find your audio. Morning, glory, and evening, grace, America. That music means it's time for

the Hillsdale Dialogue. This week with Dr. Larry Arnene as we continue on in our series on this book,

The Gathering Storm, Book 2. We finally got into Book 2. It's taken us 17 weeks to get to book

two because we've been covering a decade, so it took 17 weeks to cover a decade. Book 2 opens

with Chapter 22, titled Simply War. Germany attacks Poland on September 1, 1939, and Dr. Arne, I'm going to repeat it again,

so that new listeners, new audience, newcomers, realize.

Churchill is not in the government in 1939.

He hadn't been in the government since what, 1931, 32?

1929. Okay. So 10 years. He's not been in the government. He's in the, in the conservative

parties in parliament. But they tried to throw him out of parliament a couple of times, didn't they?

They invaded, you know, they sent political operatives, the conservative central office, it's called,

which is the administration of the conservative party and is more or less at the behest of the

prime minister, if the prime minister is conservative.

Understanding Baldwin, they sent conservative central office officials into Churchill's constituency, which is called Epping and later Woodford, but they about the same place, both times North London.

And they tried to get the local committees to deselect Churchill. And that means that he wouldn't be able to represent a constituency.

And then it would be up to Churchill to find another constituency.

That was a very good constituency.

He was given it by Stanley Baldwin when he made him Chancellor of the Exchequer,

and he represented for the rest of his life until he retired finally from politics in 1961.

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