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I'm Hugh Hewitt.

That music means it's the last radio hour of the weekend. Although I've been on vacation all weekend, we'll be again next week. I'm with my guest, Dr. Larry Arne, on the Hillsdale College Cruise. But we pre-tape two episodes of my early life, our discussion of Winston Churchill's volume published at the age of 56th in 1930.

He was 56 years old in 1930.

And we are at the chapter on Oldham, chapter 17.

And it's a very interesting chapter because Oldham is Winston Churchill's first race.

But Dr. On, I just want to get your reaction to why he would include in this.

He begins this chapter by talking about another man named Winston Churchill, an American,

who's also a writer.

And it's funny and it's humorous.

My question is, why include it?

At the age of 56 and 1930, and he's held all these different jobs.

He's been a war hero in Cuba and India and the Sudan.

He's a war correspondent about to go off in this book to South Africa.

He's been the Chancellor of the Exchequer, First Lord of the Admiralty, Home Secretary, Board of Trade, the Colonial Office, he's been a colonel in the trenches.

It struck me as a very unusual sight as I was reading it. Why did you think he included it?

Well, of course, I don't know, but he didn't say why he included it.

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