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Churchill and de Gaulle: a strange relationship

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4.34.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

After France fell in 1940, it was Charles de Gaulle who led the Free French forces against Nazi Germany and Vichy France. From the moment he assumed that position, de Gaulle was locked into a relationship with British prime minister Winston Churchill. The two men are the subject of the latest book by Professor Richard Vinen, The Last Titans, and here, in conversation with James Osborne, he shares his insights into the two men, their relationship, and their lasting impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hidden beneath the streets of Westminster lies one of Britain's best kept secrets.

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Discover what life was like for the people living and working underground

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and walk in Churchill's footsteps through the historic rooms,

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including the War Cabinet Room, the Map Room and Churchill's footsteps through the historic rooms, including the

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War Cabinet Room, the Map Room and Churchill's bedroom, all left untouched since

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