Welcome to Cross Politics. I come into town and Gabe leaves town. It's like he set this up on perfect.

Yes, sir. When do I get to leave town? Whenever you like. Oh, if you like to leave right now, no one's holding you here hostage. It's okay, but you're going to miss.

Really? Really? You're going to miss a wonderful, I mean, if you like, I mean, I don't mind hogging our guests to myself. I mean, Pastor Steve Jeffrey is here. He's got a new toy. I can't leave a Pastor Steve coming on.

I mean, I've already done the show, you know, just meeting him talking. I walked in and you guys were already doing the show.

It is phenomenal conversation.

I'm serious. Like, for about 30 seconds, I was like, are we alive? Are we live? And you know I don't like to do the show before the show, but he's such an intriguing person. You were doing the show before the show. I know, I was. And you're also the kind of person to be like,

we're just going to do the show.

And then like, you know, Pastor Toby does join.

Yeah, that's true.

I would do the show.

And then, like, you know, Pastor Toby does join.

Yeah, that's true.

I would do that too.

You would do that.

Because you're like, it's like kind of fresh and raw, you know. It's just what it is. It's authentic. It happened how it happened. So I'm looking for it. For all y'all out there, like, literally, that's what the show is like.

They don't believe us.

It's like, no, it's like totally raw, totally raw.

I mean, I planted it in my head.

But I just don't believe us. It's like, no, it's like totally raw. Totally raw.

I mean, I planted it in my head.

Right.

I just don't tell you guys.

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