Church Discipline without Proof?

Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

While Jimmy is out of town Joe brings Dr. Alligood back on. This time they are responding to a tweet by Montgomery Loehlein on how to handle accusations of abuse when there is no evidence. Can church discipline take place without evidence? How do you protect the vulnerable when you don’t know who is lying? The guys get into it. Note: We had a couple audio hiccups in this episode. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/doctrine-and-devotion/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	Welcome to Doctrine and Devotion, a podcast that explores Christian faith and practice
0:17.3	from a reformed Baptist perspective.
0:19.2	My name is Joe Thorne.
0:20.2	I'm the lead pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in St. Charles, Illinois.
0:23.4	I just got out of a deacon's meeting.
0:25.7	Good meeting.
0:26.7	Love our deacons.
0:28.0	We're talking about what's going on, what God's been doing, some of the needs of the
0:31.9	congregation, the needs of their particular ministries and areas of oversight, what we're
0:35.4	looking to do in the future, super encouraging meeting.
0:39.0	And I just feel blessed because when I meet with the elders or the deacons, pretty much
0:44.7	every time I walk away really encouraged by what God is doing.
0:47.6	I know that's not always the case, but with everybody else and other churches, but all
0:54.8	the things that I have to deal with it, we all have to deal with in ministry to be able
0:58.8	to go into leadership meetings and walk away encouraged every time is a grace I do not
1:04.2	take it lightly.
1:05.2	I'll tell you what else I don't take lightly.
1:07.5	When Jimmy bails on me and leaves me all by myself, so I don't like, you know, like I
1:11.9	have to figure this thing out.
1:13.0	And now I'm going to have to do like, he can't audio edit because he's totally MIA.
1:17.0	He's gone.
1:18.0	He is gone for a week, like he can't help.
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