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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Church and State are Being Reunited, Thanks to SCOTUS

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick explores the rise of Christian nationalism in America, its influence on the Supreme Court , and the implications for democracy and civil rights. Featuring Rachel Laser, CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, their discussion delves into the historical roots, recent legal cases, and the ongoing fight to uphold the separation of church and state in a country that survived two centuries as an open, pluralist refuge for all religions, and then became a Christian nation, seemingly overnight.


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0:00.0

This is Amicus Slates podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court.

0:08.9

I'm Dahlia Lithwick.

0:11.6

The Supreme Court is making advances for religious extremists that are pretty unprecedented.

0:19.0

This is the Department of Labor's monthly prayer service.

0:24.2

They say separation between church and state, they told me.

0:28.3

I said, all right, let's forget about that for one time.

0:31.1

Christian nationalism is about advancing traditional power structures in our society.

0:39.3

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth invited a self-described Christian nationalist pastor

0:44.4

to lead a prayer service at the Pentagon.

0:47.6

Do you know that God also is a God of war?

0:50.0

We are one military, one fighting force, one nation under God.

0:56.5

We face an essential test.

0:59.6

Whether our nations will be and remain Western nations with distinct characteristics,

1:07.4

Christian nations.

1:08.4

Religious freedom, as it's promised in our Constitution,

1:13.3

church state separation is an American original. We should be so proud that it came from us.

1:22.6

On Monday, the Supreme Court issued a couple of shadow docket orders that barely caused a ripple in the headlines, understandably.

1:31.4

America's newly minted war on Iran that, please remember, is an undeclared war and therefore absolutely unconstitutional, dominated, and will continue to dominate the daily news.

1:43.5

But one of those shadow docket rulings

1:45.8

is really worth a second look on its own terms and also because it is part of a pattern of

1:51.6

Supreme Court jurisprudence that mirrors, amplifies, and in some ways laid a path for the ways

1:57.4

in which the second Trump administration is conducting itself. On Monday, the court's

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