Church After Mars Hill with Joel Kiekintveld

The Allender Center Podcast

The Allender Center

Psychology, Religion & Spirituality, Mental Health, Christianity, Trauma, Health & Fitness, Theology

4.6 • 628 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

When we examine the far-reaching impact of spiritual abuse, it becomes evident that it transcends isolated incidents, permeating a broader culture, system, and ideology that inflict harm.

In this week's episode, Rachael engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joel Kiekintveld, a pastor and Adjunct Professor at The Seattle School, shedding light on the intricate dynamics of systems and cultures that foster spiritually abusive environments.

Joel recently hosted Season 4 of Transforming Engagement, the Podcast, called "Church After Mars Hill," in response to the widely popular podcast, “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.” Through their series of conversations, Joel and his guests not only examine Mars Hill Church as a case study to identify the systems, cultures, and leadership structures that contributed to its downfall, but they also create a space for introspection and imagination for what can be done with these lessons learned. In the aftermath of the destruction wrought by spiritually abusive church cultures, their dialogues explore the delicate tension between deconstruction and rebuilding.

We hope you enjoy this conversation and also check out “Church After Mars Hill,” the full season of Transforming Engagement, the Podcast, at transformingengagement.org/podcast

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.
0:08.8	I'm Dr. Dan Allender.
0:10.5	And I'm Rachel Clinton Chen.
0:12.7	We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.
0:17.0	And restoration for the heart.
0:19.4	Thank you for joining us.
0:20.4	Let's get this conversation started.
0:32.2	Well, good people.
0:33.5	I hope this finds you well loved today.
0:36.5	On the Allender Center podcast today, I am really grateful to be joined by Joel Kickenfeld.
0:42.9	Welcome, Joel.
0:44.5	Thank you for having me.
0:45.7	Really excited to be here.
0:47.0	Yeah.
0:47.7	Joel is an adjunct professor at the Seattle School of Theology and Psychology, a fellow with Street Psalms, and is the co-director of
0:55.3	the Anchorage Urban Training Collaborative. He has educational background and practical theology
1:00.8	and global urban ministry serving as a companion to his many years as a pastor and nonprofit
1:07.4	director serving at risk and street involved teens. He currently lives in Alaska with his wife and three daughters in an intentional community
1:15.6	at a trailer part.
1:16.7	But for the purposes of the Allender Center podcast, Joel most recently hosted a nine-episode
1:22.5	podcast series on Transforming Engagement, the podcast, which is a production of the Center for Transforming Engagement.
1:29.5	And for those of you who don't know, that is our sister center here at the Seattle School.
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