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Take One Daf Yomi

Chullin 12 - The Talented Mr. Talmud

Take One Daf Yomi

Tablet Magazine

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality

4.8565 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

On today’s page, Chullin 12, the rabbis wrestle with a deceptively modern question: when can we trust that someone claiming expertise actually knows what they’re doing? Is watching a person perform a task enough, or do credentials and reputation matter more than appearances alone? The daf becomes a meditation on trust, supervision, and the limits of what we can truly verify, themes that feel especially urgent in an age of AI, performance, and manufactured authority. In a world full of experts, how do we tell the real thing from the convincing fake? Listen and find out. Also mentioned in today’s episode: A Tie in Tel Aviv

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0:00.0

Hey there and welcome back to Take One, the podcast that brings you just one expert page of Tomlin each day.

0:20.8

And I say that because today's page,

0:22.8

Chulin 12, is all about expertise. How so? Have a listen to this rather long bit.

0:29.7

Ravnachman says that Rav says, in the case of a person who saw one who slaughtered an animal,

0:35.6

if the person saw him slaughtering continuously from beginning

0:39.3

to end of the act, he is permitted to eat from his slaughter. And if not, he is prohibited

0:44.4

from eating from his slaughter. The Gamar asks, what are the circumstances? If it is a case

0:50.0

where the onlooker knows that he is knowledgeable in the halakot of slaughter, why do I require that the

0:55.8

onlooker saw the slaughter? Even if he did not see him slaughter, the onlooker may rely on his

1:01.9

slaughter. And if the onlooker knows that he is not knowledgeable in the halakot of slaughter,

1:06.4

it is obvious that only if the person saw him slaughtering from beginning to end he is permitted

1:11.7

to eat from his slaughter. Rather, perhaps it is a case what the onlooker does not know

1:16.9

whether he is knowledgeable or whether he is not knowledgeable. But if that is the case, let us say

1:22.4

the majority of those associated with slaughter are experts in the halakot of slaughter,

1:26.8

and one may rely on

1:28.3

his slaughter. The discussion is fascinating because earlier on in the Massehtha on page three,

1:34.0

we learned that if we are unsure that someone is an expert in the laws of shichita or

1:38.6

slaughtering, we can't eat the meat he slaughtered, even if we watched him perform the shhita

1:43.5

or the slaughtering.

1:44.7

But the two cases the rabbis explain are different, because the earlier case referred to us

1:50.1

just stumbling onto a process of shahita at random, whereas the process on today's page

1:56.4

discusses a situation in which a person is supervising a new and still in experience, Shoch.

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