Chuck Todd digs into the aftermath of the Virginia redistricting vote and finds plenty of blame to spread around — Democrats are gloating, Republicans are upset, and the whole episode confirms that partisan redistricting has become a race to the bottom with no one coming out clean. Henotes the "no" campaign in Virginia performed about as well as it realistically could, argues that not a single Republican had the guts to call out Texas's initial redistricting as wrong — meaning he has zero sympathy for the ones now complaining that Democrats responded in kind — and warns that gerrymandering is ultimately an insult to the founding fathers no matter who's doing it, even as he gives Democrats partial credit for at least putting the question to voters. He argues Trump's approval numbers portend a catastrophic midterm for the GOP, that Democrats' ceiling is around 40 House seats, and that incumbent Republicans will soon be desperate to distance themselves from Trump — though very few can credibly do so. On Iran, he says the Wall Street Journal editorial board unloaded on Trump, declaring that Tehran now thinks Trump is a sucker, and argues the president made everything worse by starting a war he doesn't have the guts to finish. He closes with a fascinating read on Tucker Carlson's public break with Trump, noting Trump has burned virtually every professional relationship he's ever had — but cautioning that it's genuinely hard to know what Carlson actually believes, that this could be a fake "heel turn," or that Tucker may be positioning himself for his own presidential run as the face of an anti-Trump MAGA movement.

Finally, he answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment and explains why he has reservations about NBA star Kevin Durant.

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Timeline:

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00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction

02:45 Democrats gloating and Republicans upset after Virginia referendum

03:45 Redistricting has become a race to the bottom

04:15 The “no” vote in Virginia did about as good as it could have

05:15 No Republican had the guts to say Texas redistricting was wrong

06:00 No sympathy for Republicans who don’t acknowledge Trump started this

06:30 Trump getting involved didn’t help the “No” campaign

07:30 Republicans need Trump’s base and can’t repudiate him

08:15 Trump’s approval numbers portend a catastrophic midterm for GOP

08:45 Democrats ceiling is around 40 seats in the house

09:45 Yes campaign required Obama to clarify his position on gerrymandering

11:30 Voters in northern Virginia have felt personally attacked by Trump

12:15 DOGE put a lot of people in northern Virginia out of work

13:00 More resources & attention wouldn’t have helped the “no” campaign

14:15 Incumbent Republicans will be desperate to distance from Trump

16:15 Not many Republicans can credibly distance themselves from Trump

17:45 We need to fix the infrastructure of democracy & have better incentives

19:15 Are Dems going to jam things down the voters’ throats like GOP does*

19:45 Emulating Trump’s tactics is bad for America

20:45 Gerrymandering is an insult to the founding fathers

21:45 Democrats get credit for at least going to the voters on redistricting

22:15 Florida’s state constitution bars partisan & racial gerrymandering

24:15 Florida gerrymander would look like “strips of bacon”, against constitution

25:15 Trump may bully Florida legislature into gerrymandering

26:45 The best Trump can hope for now is a deal similar to Obama’s nuclear deal

27:15 WSJ editorial board unloaded on Trump, said Iran thinks Trump is a sucker

28:15 Trump made everything worse with Iran

29:15 Trump doesn’t have the guys to finish the job, because it requires ground troops

30:15 The louder Trump squeals, the more you know the criticism is correct

31:45 Trump knows he made a massive mistake

33:00 It’s clear Trump doesn’t understand Iran & didn’t have a strategy

34:15 What to make of Tucker Carlson’s break with Trump?

35:00 Trump has burned every professional relationship he’s ever had

36:15 It’s hard to know what Carlson’s true motivations and beliefs are

37:30 There’s a real chance this is a fake “heel turn” by Carlson

39:15 Maybe Tucker believes he could be president as anti-Trump MAGA

45:45 Ask Chuck
46:00 Joke about Trump being a lame duck
46:45 Do you have a great story about Tim Russert?
51:45 What is your project to get independents elected?
55:15 Is there a meaningful distinction between MAGA & Republican?
1:01:00 If a third party emerges, what do you think they’ll call themselves?
1:04:00 How would the midterms be affected if Alito or Thomas retire in October?
1:06:15 Is there any way Dems can reach the “own the libs” part of the electorate?
1:10:15 Is there any way to stop gerrymandering? Your NFL draft strategy?
1:18:00 Kevin Durant rant

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