Chuck Klosterman & W. Kamau Bell
Bullseye with Jesse Thorn
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4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 August 2016
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR. |
| 0:12.5 | It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn. When you're a young, did you feel like your parents missed |
| 0:17.2 | the point of the clothes you were wearing or the music you listened to? Like they just |
| 0:21.5 | fundamentally misunderstood the things that made you you. Imagine you were a historian |
| 0:28.3 | a hundred years from now, looking at the culture of today. What would you get? What |
| 0:35.8 | wouldn't make sense? Chuck Closterman has been thinking about it. The way the people who |
| 0:42.5 | are alive during a period view the experience of what's going on doesn't seem to be the |
| 0:48.0 | view that exists in perpetuity. It's always people who have no first-hand knowledge, who |
| 0:52.6 | reinterpret the events and sort of shape what the meaning of history is. |
| 0:57.0 | Yeah, me and Chuck are going to get into it. It's Bullseye. |
| 1:07.2 | Coming up, I'll talk to author and critic Chuck Closterman about his new book, but what |
| 1:11.8 | if we're wrong? He's got some real particular ideas about how technology affects the way |
| 1:18.4 | we look at culture. I'm not sure the internet is actually going to do the main thing that |
| 1:23.8 | we think it's going to do, which is allow a wider sort of scope of cultural reality. |
| 1:30.8 | It might actually make it more inflexible. He's written eight books, countless articles, |
| 1:36.1 | and he knows that there is a fundamental difference between writing for print and writing for |
| 1:41.6 | the net. When I write a book, I am writing something that's going to be published a year |
| 1:46.8 | after I'm done writing with the hope that in 20 years someone can read it again, whereas |
| 1:52.2 | when you're writing on the internet, the assumption is that it's really just today, and |
| 1:56.8 | tomorrow, the entire internet will overwrite this. Me and Chuck Closterman are the future of |
| 2:02.8 | the past. Plus, comedian Debbie Kamau-Bell tells us about the best advice he ever got. |
| 2:09.3 | So Kevin Kadoka will always have a place in my heart that is like a guy who planted a |
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