Chuck Klosterman and the Ivory Tower

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.5 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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On The Gist, Jeffrey Epstein's ideas. In the interview, when Chuck Klosterman writes non-fiction, he worries about missing some grand historical context in a way that would ruin his work. With fiction, that anxiety goes out the window— if someone reads one of his short stories and thinks something "completely unrelated to what I thought, it's still okay." Klosterman digs into that, the advantages of an education outside the ivory tower, and what the Beatles really did for rock music. His new book of short stories is Raised in Captivity: Fictional Nonfiction. In the Spiel, the first night of the CNN debates and Marianne Williamson. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This podcast may have explicit content and also has this implicit request.
0:04.8	If you follow me on Twitter, why not follow the gist at SlateGist.
0:09.8	It's Wednesday, July 31st, 2019 from Slate.
0:16.7	It's the gist, I'm Mike Pasca.
0:19.0	There was a debate yesterday.
0:20.9	There will be a debate tonight.
0:23.0	The debate yesterday was, is Jeffrey Epstein a horrible creep?
0:27.1	The debate today is, is Jeffrey Epstein a deluded megalomaniacal horrible creep?
0:32.6	Here is the headline from The New York Times.
0:35.4	Jeffrey Epstein hoped to seed human race with his DNA.
0:42.6	On behalf of the human race, might I say no thanks.
0:45.8	And seed, the verb, hoped to seed indeed.
0:51.2	And may I also say, the...
0:53.8	The plan was plan.
0:55.3	The far-fetched idea was, again, to quote the times,
0:59.7	Mr. Epstein over the years confided in scientists and others about his scheme according to
1:04.9	four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.
1:11.3	No, the human race was, in fact, not seeded by Jeffrey Epstein.
1:17.6	I believe that to be true, although I was in New Mexico a few years ago.
1:20.4	There were a lot of kids walking around with curly hair and a vaguely symmetric vibe.
1:25.1	So maybe we can't say quite so confidently that there's absolutely no evidence that the
1:28.8	plan didn't come to fruition.
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