After your OIC tour at Team 4, not long after 9-11 happens,

I'm curious, you know, you'd been in for 18 years, 17, 18 years at this point.

9-11 happens, where were you and how did that impact the rest of your career?

Obviously it was life-changing for all of us who were in before and after.

I'd love to hear your experience with it.

Yeah.

During my, I had an important thing that happened in my deployment as a platoon commander.

During a training exercise, we lost one of our men.

He jumped out of a helicopter, Brad Tucker, and it was a highly traumatic event, which was pretty...

Was one of your platoon matters?

Yeah, he was one of my platoon guys.

We were in the, we were in the Bahamas, and we had the CRC mounted underneath the

TF160 helicopter, and when they released it into the water, it got accidentally released really high, and two of our guys jumped out, followed it out, and unfortunately, one of them, Brad Tucker, lost his life on that.

And that was an incredibly profound thing that happened to our platoon, because that was all prior to the war, you know, and losing a guy is, you know,

it's always horrible. And it was, it was just, that was the thing. So once that was over,

once that platoon was disbanded, probably, you know, naturally six months later or whatever,

I received orders to special Boat Team 22

down in Mississippi and to go down there as an action officer. So just working in the op shop,

doing paperwork and stuff like that. Once I got down there, they decided that they needed to make a

change in their training program and the way it was going.

And so they pulled me out of operations officer, made me the training officer at Special Boat Team 22.

And I was saddled up there with one of my former teammates, Master Chief Seals, and also one of Chris Eads, which is a warrant officer that i spent a lot of time

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