Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of fluently Ford I'm so

excited to have on a repeat guest Koko Maco welcome to the show how you doing

how's it going good thank you so much for having me.

I love coming on yours.

And last time I came on your pod, like your audience is so loyal.

I got like a spike in listeners.

But I'm pretty sure was directly from yours.

There are some people where like I love having them on my podcast but I get a little bit

nervous because I go what if they like the other person's podcast better than mine and I'm

happy to say you're one of those people.

Oh thank you. Yeah, you're one of those people. Oh, thank you.

Yeah, I know.

Your episodes are amazing.

Like you've got a great co-host, but you also do a lot of cool solo episodes

and you cover like celebrities,

but also online trending topics, and what I really appreciate you do a little bit of the

conspiracy speculation angle which I think makes things fun so for anyone who hasn't listened

give a little description of ahead of the curve the name

of your podcast thank you yes so it started because I had my podcast or sorry it

started because I had my Tik- tick talk kokamoko and I like behind the scenes had worked in the industry for years at the time I was at Buzzfeed. I'm now full-time doing this, thank goodness, but I was working behind the scenes, producing

videos, helping with stories, helping produce videos with celebrities, and things that and so I really had like I just

loved the craft of it I loved the behind the scenes and when I started making videos

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