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Hey, Casey. What's going on? Oh, Millie, it's the Christmas season. And it's very thrilling because we have the King of Christmas, the Christmas Zaddy himself, film critic, podcaster, author of Have

Yourself a Movie Little Christmas.

Alonzo, Alonzo.

Hello, Millie.

Hello, Casey.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for being here.

He's an old friend.

I was going to say.

Yeah, we go way back.

You, but you particularly, y'all worked together for many years, right?

Yes.

We worked on maximum film.

Case it was our, you were the, not the original producer, but you came in early and were there for quite a good chunk of the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was there.

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