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The Interview

Christine Lagarde: Can Europe's economy withstand Trump 2.0?

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur is in Frankfurt for an exclusive interview with Christine Lagarde, president of the European Central Bank. Donald Trump has triggered what could become a global trade war and has prompted European governments to make massive new defence spending commitments. Is the European economy capable of withstanding Trump 2.0?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:05.2

My guest in this interview recorded in Frankfurt on the 12th of March

0:09.6

has been a fixture in lists of the world's most powerful women for two decades.

0:15.7

Christine Lagarde rose to prominence as a successful corporate lawyer.

0:20.4

She became a highly regarded minister in France's

0:23.1

centre-right government after 2005 and was very quickly installed as finance minister. Some saw her

0:29.9

as a future French president. Instead, she moved to Washington as managing director of the

0:35.6

International Monetary Fund. In the middle of her second term at the fund, she quit in order to return to Europe

0:42.2

and become the first woman to head the European Central Bank.

0:47.4

So now she is a key player in management of the European economy,

0:52.3

at a time when the continent is facing severe economic headwinds.

0:56.8

Not only is there a long-term problem with low growth, low productivity, which has left Europe

1:02.5

struggling to compete with the US and China, but now there are huge new political challenges too.

1:09.3

Donald Trump has fired the opening shots in what could be an

1:12.5

extremely damaging global trade war. And Trump's determination to see Europe's democracies

1:18.6

pay for their own defense, rather than rely on American largesse, has got governments

1:24.4

across Europe anxiously trying to figure out how they can rebuild their militaries

1:29.3

without ruining the public finances. Europe desperately needs massive investment in technology

1:36.7

and infrastructure to make it globally competitive, has that just got a whole lot harder. Well, Christine Lagarde joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk.

1:48.2

Lovely to see you again. It's great to have you on the show. I have to begin in the United States,

1:53.8

which is weeks into Trump's second term. As you look at what he is doing, particularly in terms of his

2:00.0

economic measures right now,

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