Christine Caine Almost Quit Christianity.

The Deep End With Lecrae

Lecrae

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 602 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with world-renowned Bible teacher, author, and activist Christine Caine. Christine opens up about her powerful journey from being an "unnamed" child in Australia to leading a global movement against human trafficking.

She dives deep into the reality of childhood trauma, the shocking discovery of her adoption at age 33, and how she learned to "rewire" her brain through the Word of God. Whether you are struggling with a "mother wound," navigating disappointment in church leadership, or feeling like you're in your own "Hell Week," this conversation offers a roadmap for moving from survival to a life of true, supernatural flourishing.

In this episode, we discuss:

How to handle the "pain of recovery" after a life-altering injury or trauma.
The difference between a "well-managed life" and a supernatural one.
Why your history does not define your destiny.
Practical wisdom for the next generation of leaders in a social media-driven world.
Why the most fruitful decade of your life might still be ahead of you.

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CHAPTER MARKERS

00:00 Introduction to Christine Caine

02:38 History of Trauma and Resilience

03:33 Growing Up in a Greek Immigrant Home

05:15 The Discovery of Adoption

08:11 Unnamed Number 2508: A Crisis of Identity

09:23 Renewing the Mind through Scripture

11:48 From Numbers to People: The Mission of A21

13:35 Seeking the Biological Mother

15:16 "I Don't Want Any Trouble": A Mother's Voice

19:23 The Pain of Recovery vs. The Pain of Injury

21:42 Breaking Cultural and Family Expectations

27:29 Marriage and Shared Purpose with Nick Caine

34:51 The Wheel and the Oil: Balancing Life

37:17 Avoiding a Well-Managed Life without God

40:51 Having the Faith to Flourish

44:56 Justice Work and the Hope of Christ

52:43 Hell Week: The Choice to Keep Running

57:21 The Danger of Tapping Out at 60

59:42 Navigating Church Failure and Disappointment

01:03:57 Responding Out of Wisdom, Not Wounding

01:14:36 Advice for the Social Media Generation

01:17:03 Deep End Questions: Misconceptions and Prisons

01:23:24 Preparing for the Most Fruitful Decade

01:27:54 Legacy and Handing Over the Baton of Faith

01:31:53 Resources to Help Fight Human Trafficking

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0:00.0	God will make people stand up and wait. You just got to stay faithful, allow God to develop you,
0:06.9	and not get out of the purpose that he's got for you. It's been a brutal decade. And I start crying
0:12.6	for the first time in 37 years of being a Christian. I don't know if I want to. I don't know
0:19.5	if I want to because I know the cost associated with doing it.
0:23.1	But how do you navigate being a mother and a wife and traveling and speaking and the organizations?
0:32.1	Most people have really well managed lives, but they've managed God right out of their life. So it's only what I can achieve, what I can do, what I can manage. And I wasn't called to live a well managed life. I was called to live a supernatural life. My life should be a life where people go, how does that work? Goodness. I want to run through a wall. I love you. I'm running through a wall right now. Open the door. So I can run through a wall.
0:56.0	I'm running through a wall.
0:57.0	I didn't grow up in church.
0:59.0	And when I saw church leaders make core decisions, I'm devastated.
1:05.0	What the heck is any of this real?
1:07.0	And here's the thing, the Cray, the people that I personally know that maybe have fallen
1:10.8	in the last five years, most of them have been older than me. So you think you get to 60,
1:15.8	you can go into cruise control. The enemy is nothing if not patient. You really care for what you
1:20.3	pray for. Because as many people as God allows you to help, that's how many people you can hurt.
1:34.8	This is the deep end with La Cray. All right, everybody,
1:50.5	listen, today I'm excited because we have an esteemed, incredible individual with us. I mean, we've got a scholar, a Bible teacher, a leader, an advocate for human trafficking,
1:59.8	those who are in danger of being trafficked, and just a brilliant and godly individual.
2:10.6	Somebody who I have had the opportunity to be around probably for nearly almost over a decade, for sure.
2:15.2	And somebody that I'm sure everyone's going to be excited to hear from today. So we have none other than Christine Kane.
2:18.1	Hey, Lecrault, I'm so honored to be here. I'm glad you're here. Like, you don't understand how
2:24.3	excited, not only was I for you to be here, but just like my team, my staff, they were like,
2:30.8	can we sneak in? Can we hang out in here? And I was like, no, it's unfortunately. We're in a different studio. We're in L.A. It's a little different. So I'm honored to have you here. You know, there's so many places we can go. There's so many things that and you're so vocal and transparent with your story and your journey, but I do think it'd be helpful because
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