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I'm your host Katie Helper joined by Gabe Pacheco.

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Dude give us the money on Patreon. Give us your money. Show us the money, give us your money, yeah.

So we don't have to do ads for, you know, evil companies. Yeah. Whatever. just give us some money throw us some bones

some clamshells clamsheckles guys give us your money yeah yeah. Yeah. It's really easy. It's so easy you just go to

Patreon.com slash the Katie helper show. Patron.com slash the Katie helper show

just put in some a credit card you can link to whatever stuff, five dollars a month for bonus

content. I don't know if you realize how little that is. That is like you could

comb this like you could just walk around I think and find pennies on the street or you don't have to go that extreme that's a little time you buy yourself a metal detector

and you start combing the beaches metal detector I've always wonder why you'll recoup you'll recoup the money that you'll recoup the money that you spent on that metal

detector in no time.

In no time.

No, what we should do is we should give out a metal detector at our next live

taping. We should have a raffle.

We should do raffle. On today's episode I speak to Christine Ann, the founder and

international coordinator of Women Cross DMZ, which is an organization for

peace in Korea and women's leadership in peace building.

Then I do a little bit of a role reversal and I play you an interview that I did

where I was the person being asked questions. I spoke to Emma Bigland

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