Christina Koningisor on Secrecy Creep
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 4 January 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Government secrecy is pervasive when it comes to national security and foreign affairs, and it’s becoming more and more common for state and even local governments to invoke government secrecy rationales that in the past, only the president of the United States and the national intelligence community were able to claim. While some of the secrecy is no doubt necessary to ensure that police investigations aren't compromised and state and local officials are getting candid advice from their staff, government secrecy directly threatens government transparency and thus democratic accountability. Alan Rozenshtein spoke about these issues with Christina Koningisor, a law professor at the University of Utah and the author of “Secrecy Creep” a recently published article in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review, along with the Lawfare post summarizing her work.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:31.2 | Right laptop, I'm ready to finish this thesis. |
| 0:34.2 | What thesis? |
| 0:35.2 | The one I've spent two years working on. |
| 0:36.7 | Don't have it. |
| 0:37.7 | What's the last version you saved? |
| 0:39.4 | Got final version, final final version, and no, I'm actually serious now. |
| 0:42.9 | This is the last version I will never save another version I promise, version two. |
| 0:46.7 | Surely that one? |
| 0:47.7 | No. |
| 0:48.7 | Why? |
| 0:49.7 | It's corrupted. |
| 0:50.7 | Oh, thanks. |
| 1:01.5 | Saved it again. |
| 1:08.8 | There was a protest and a bunch of people who were at the protest realized that their phones |
| 1:14.8 | weren't behaving as they should. |
| 1:16.8 | So they submitted requests to the NYPD saying, you know, were there any surveillance technologies |
| 1:22.1 | being used in our phones at this protest? |
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