There's a lot of things that maybe as a Christian we can be quiet about, but we cannot be quiet about male and female.

Because when the enemy distorts the image of male and female, he's actually undermining the image of male and female he's actually undermining the image of God and when we

agree with the ideology that people were woven a mistake that they were woven one way, when they really should, like their identity

was one way, their soul is one way, their body is another.

We are setting people up to be divided houses and divided houses cannot stand.

Hey everybody, welcome to conversations.

I'm John Bevere joined by my beautiful wife Lisa and we are I I'm gonna say this.

I am so excited about today's podcast Lisa because we finally and I've been

waiting to get to do this because I've been hearing about this for a year in such

a profound way I mean Lisa teases me she talks to me about the things she's

discovering that the Holy Spirit is showing her and I'm like, oh my gosh, this whole

thing needs to get out and everybody needs to hear it. But it's about the new book called The Fight for

female that just launched September of 2024 and let me say this before we

jump into this conversation.

That's so exciting.

We are actually a family of podcasts here in Messenger International.

So we've got several.

And we want to encourage you to listen to all of them.

We have got the Fight for Female Podcasts with Lisa Bavir.

We have the John Bavir podcast with John Bavir

and Artin Bavir.

And Leesas is with Christian.

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