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The Heidi St. John Podcast

Christians and the Flat Earth Trap with Barry Wilmore

The Heidi St. John Podcast

Heidi St. John

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.83.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Today, astronaut Barry Wilmore joins me to talk about his story, what he saw from space, and why the flat earth movement is creating confusion for many Christians. This conversation goes deeper than science—it’s about discernment, truth, and learning to stand firmly on God’s Word in a culture full of deception.

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. This is Heidi St. John. I got a question for you. Is the earth flat? I'm not kidding. I'm not joking.

0:08.0

I want to talk about whether or not the earth is flat today because it has become one of the most

0:12.5

frequently asked questions, believe it or not, that I get on my podcast. I was in Montana a couple days

0:18.4

ago. It came up in a Q&A. I was recently at the Answer Center for the Answers for Women Conference to Back-to-Back conferences. It came up there. Before that, I was in Australia. It came up there. And listen, you guys, I'm no astronaut, but I am with one today. And we're going to talk about this. I am joined today by Captain Barry Wilmore. You guys, I have a real-life

0:38.2

astronaut in my studio. Okay, pinch me. I'm trying not to pinch myself. I've got a real-life

0:43.0

astronaut in my studio today. Captain Barry Wilmore is a veteran NASA astronaut and a U.S. Navy

0:48.5

test pilot who spent over 464 days in space. You guys are going to love this conversation. It's going to be hard-hitting.

0:57.5

We're not holding anything back. This is a conversation that needs to happen in the church. It's about

1:01.8

time. We're going to have it today. This is the Heidi St. John podcast. I'm glad you're here. Stick

1:05.8

around. I think you're going to be encouraged.

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com forward slash Heidi all right oh my goodness captain Barry Wilmar what a treat thank you for being

2:00.2

here Heidi so wonderful to be with you the. The last time I saw you, we were in Australia. We were upside down.

2:06.0

We were on the bottom side. We sure were.

2:09.6

Extraordinary. It has been a real honor for me to get to know you, to hear your story, to hear you speak, to see the pictures that you're bringing back from the,

2:19.9

you know, you're one of just a very handful, small handful of people that have actually

2:23.3

seen the earth from space. And so I want to get into it, but I want everyone who's not familiar

2:28.8

with you, if they're not by now, they're living under a rock, because you've been commentating

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