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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, friends. Hello, friends, and thanks for tuning in again. We're so excited to have you back. On today's episode, Greg Cokel and I are going to finish our analysis

on his recent conversation with atheist Alex O'Connor and spiritual thinker, Dr. Kay, when they were

on the DyerP CEO podcast. We'll be breaking down key clips and exploring the big ideas they raised.

Let's dive straight in and pick up right where we left off last time.

I have a question for you on that. It's a personal question more than anything. So I find myself in

the same position as Alex where I think I'd be happier, all things considered, if I had an anchoring

in a religion. I think that's like a subjectively true that I'd be happier.

Probably just because it would close a gap of some sort.

It would anchor me in some way.

Answer a question.

It would answer a question.

And then it would give me more of a structure to my decision making. Sure.

You know, it would mean that when I have moments of suffering, I'd have a solution to that

moment of suffering. So if my parents end up dying someday, which I'm sure they will, I will believe

that they are still alive and they are somewhere and they're fine, which will ease my suffering.

So I agree with Alex in that regard. The problem I have is in order to adopt that view, I need some kind of, I need to believe it.

It's true.

Like people aren't very good at lying to themselves.

And also when you talk about my friend in Dubai has had this experience, he now feels better.

He could have well felt better, I believe, if he had, you know, believed that

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