This is thinking in public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about

front-line theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.

I'm Albert Moller, your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.

Sometimes there are historical eras, entire historical movements, and moments in history that are distant from us, our knowledge and our imagination.

They do not reside in our thinking as they know that they should.

Usually those periods of time reside somewhere far back in our history, some far back in the history of the centuries before us.

But in the case of the Cold War, there is a very, very dangerous forgetfulness that has taken place about a period of life that is very, very near to us, and with issues that are, if anything, not over.

Paul Kinger is professor of political science at Grove City College in Pennsylvania.

He is executive director of the Center for Vision

and Values there and also serves as a visiting fellow the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution,

and Peace at Stanford University. He's one of America's major public intellectuals,

often quoted in America's newspapers

published in its academic journals.

His latest book is entitled Doopes,

how America's adversaries have manipulated progressives for a century.

Professor Kinger, welcome to thinking in public.

Dr. Voler, it's an honor to be on with you, thank you.

I read your latest book with a great deal of interest.

I followed your work prior to this, and you are a man who takes ideas seriously.

So just as we begin this conversation, how did you enter into a life committed to the world of ideas.

Well, it's interesting.

When the Cold War was sort of raging and ending, and that would have been the period of about

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