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On with Kara Swisher

Christiane Amanpour on Hot Wars, Trade Wars & Potential Wars

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.22.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Christiane Amanpour, CNN’s chief international anchor, joins Kara to unpack current and potential conflicts — from simmering tension between India and Pakistan to escalating violence in Gaza, attempts to forge a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, and rising concerns over Taiwan. They also examine how President Trump’s trade wars are reshaping global diplomacy and the rules of international engagement. Plus, Kara and Christiane discuss Amanpour's new podcast, The Ex Files, which she co-hosts with her ex-husband Jamie Rubin, and how journalism is evolving amid partisanship, social media, and endless attacks on the press. This episode was recorded on Wednesday May 7th, before India and Pakistan signed a cease-fire and The White House announced a trade deal with China. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Kara, listen, I hate to do this, but I've only got 45 minutes.

0:04.3

That's fine. Don't worry. Each have to just talk fast.

0:19.9

Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine, the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:21.2

This is on with Caro Swisher, and I'm Caro Swisher.

0:23.9

My guest today needs little introduction.

0:26.5

Christiana Amunport, CNN's chief international anchor, has won 16 Emmy Awards, four Peabody Awards,

0:32.8

and three DuPont Columbia Awards, just to name a few.

0:36.6

She understands geopolitics as well or better than anyone,

0:39.8

and I just love Christian. She has become a friend, and she actually asked my advice on going into

0:45.8

podcasting, which she has just started to do. She's just one of these people who is so substantive

0:51.1

and so smart, and she's willing to think around things and change her mind too

0:55.5

and we're living in uncertain times with multiple wars raging around the world and more potential

0:59.7

ones bubbling up so christian is the perfect person to talk about all that turmoil and instability

1:04.3

especially since she's about to launch this new international affairs podcast called x-files

1:09.6

it's a very fun concept and we'll talk about that, too.

1:12.5

I really like the way she's approaching this, especially because it's hard to get people

1:15.8

to listen to International Affairs information, even though it's critically important.

1:19.7

Our expert question comes from Mike Abramowitz, the head of the embattled Voice of America.

1:24.6

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