Hi, this is Alice. Our featured guest this episode has one of the most recognizable

voices in the world. Most of the world does believe and knows that the Taliban

were a very close product of your country.

Do you regret that and 20 years later do you wish your country had done something different?

A few days ago, Christiane Amampur had Pakistan's former ambassador to the UN on her show,

and things got a little prickly.

I can understand the instinct to blame somebody for what has been a US-led

Western debacle in Afghanistan.

20 years of a war waged by the most powerful army in the world led to the outcome that you have seen.

Christiane Amampour has never shied away from a tough question.

And whether she is doing an interview in the studio or is covering a war as the bullets fly

overhead, she comes wildly prepared.

Always, it is why she is one of the most important journalists of the past four decades.

Her profession, she says, demands no less.

Journalism is a fundamental pillar of democracy and civil society,

and therefore if you don't have a healthy journalistic profession,

class, etc.

Then you don't have a healthy democracy.

And you can see that playing out right now,

whether it's from Hungary on the outskirts of Europe,

all the way north-south east and west

there really is a difference in the world between truth and lies

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