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Christian Smith: Why Religion Went Obsolete

Homebrewed Christianity

Dr. Tripp Fuller | Theologian, Philosopher, Minister

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.6612 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Sociologist Christian Smith discusses his new book Why Religion Went Obsolete. Smith explains that while traditional religion has been declining in America for decades, this decline hasn't resulted in greater secularism but rather a shift toward what he calls "re-enchantment culture." He argues that religion hasn't simply declined but has become obsolete - still functional but superseded by alternatives that better match contemporary sensibilities. Smith identifies numerous causal factors behind this obsolescence, including technological changes, neoliberal capitalism, transformed family structures, and the internet. He emphasizes how religious institutions often contributed to their own obsolescence through scandals and political entanglements. Our conversation explores how these changes have created a "millennial zeitgeist" that fundamentally mismatches with traditional religious structures, making religion feel outdated for younger generations who are raised with different cultural assumptions and technological environments. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Christian Smith is a renowned sociologist specializing in the study of religion in contemporary society. He currently teaches at the University of Notre Dame, where he conducts extensive research on religious trends, particularly among young Americans. Smith is the author of multiple influential books exploring faith, culture, and generational shifts, including his latest work Why Religion Went Obsolete. He previously developed the concept of "Moralistic Therapeutic Deism" to describe the dominant religious worldview of American teenagers. Smith's research often combines quantitative data analysis with qualitative interviews to understand the complex factors shaping religious participation and belief. His work examines how broad cultural and economic transformations affect religious institutions and practices, with particular attention to how different generations experience and express spirituality. Smith approaches religious change through a sociological lens that emphasizes cultural contexts rather than focusing solely on individual belief or institutional membership. Theology Beer Camp | St. Paul, MN | October 16-18, 2025 3 Days of Craft Nerdiness with 50+ Theologians & God-Pods and 600 new friends. ONLINE CLASS ANNOUNCEMENT: The Many Faces of Christ Today The question Jesus asked his disciples still resonates today: "Who do you say that I am?" Join our transformative 5-week online learning community as we explore a rich tapestry of contemporary Christologies. Experience how diverse theological voices create a compelling vision of Jesus Christ for today's world. Expand your spiritual horizons. Challenge your assumptions. Enrich your faith. As always, the class is donation-based (including 0), so head over to ManyFacesOfChrist.com for more details and to sign up! _____________________ Hang with 40+ Scholars & Podcasts and 600 people at Theology Beer Camp 2025 (Oct. 16-18) in St. Paul, MN. This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 80,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 45 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What is up theology nerds? This is Tripp. And today on the podcast, we are joined by Christian Smith.

0:08.9

He's the William R. Keene Jr. Professor of Sociology and the founding director of the Center for the Study of Religion and Society.

0:18.1

The University of Notre Dame is the author of a whole bunch of books,

0:21.8

but he's got a brand new one. Why Religion Went Obsolete, the demise of traditional faith in America.

0:29.2

It was quite a bit of fun to get to talk to him about this book, and the book is thoroughly excellent.

0:34.4

If you are trying to understand and think through the changing nature of religion and

0:39.1

culture in our time and just what's going on in the cultural zeitgeist, then this book brings

0:46.4

together a whole bunch of different research, data, and brings it together with a framework

0:51.8

to think about what's going on in history, what are the

0:54.6

cultural moves and changes, and what are the intuitions that have morphed, making religion as

1:00.1

traditionally gathered practice and enacted in America's history so different, so seemingly obsolete.

1:07.9

It was a blast to talk to him, and I hope you enjoy this conversation. You definitely

1:11.7

want to check out the book, Why Religion Went Obsolete. And yeah, well, anyway, thanks for

1:18.8

listening. Enjoy the conversation. And let me know what you think. Think, reach out, let us know,

1:24.3

and maybe, maybe even do something wild and crazy, like share the brew.

1:33.8

Hello, everyone, this is Tripp, and today on the podcast is Christian Smith. It's got a brand new book

1:40.3

about why religion went obsolete, which is, you know, a bit depressing if you have a religion

1:46.4

podcast. But hopefully, hopefully the trends don't eliminate the ability to pay for my kids' health

1:52.0

insurance. But you're not the cause of it, just the descriptor. I thought a place to begin this

1:58.4

question is for you to talk about how the origin of this book formed for you as a sociologist

2:03.8

and how looking at the data, the big data sets, and then doing interviews,

2:09.7

how does a sociologist seek to frame the question of the changing nature of religion?

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