Hello there, and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast. My name is Caleb and I am joined by

Dr. Rod Rosenblot, Scott Keith and Donovan Riley today. How are you doing Donovan? I'm doing well.

Thank you. Listeners of this show probably recognized Donovan's voice because he took up a good,

actually it was a long podcast hour of your time a couple months ago when he and Dr. Keith

did the Scott and Donovan talk about everything.

The everything cast.

I think I showed up to talk about something very specific.

And Domben said, well, I'd come over to my study.

And all of a sudden.

The whole universe was in our fingertips yeah it went

everywhere it was philosophy the early hegelian culture yeah it was uh oh wow but donovan had been on the show

one time previously as well uh i went out to hire things in valpo indiana and we did a short 15 minute

recording there as well and we did the bondage of the will and we did a short 15-minute recording there as well.

And we did the bondage of the will. And we did the bondage of the will episode as well.

Yeah. A couple summers ago. So listeners are probably mildly familiar with you at this point.

And I would still say that if listeners want to hear the bondage of the will explained,

because it's a seminal Lutheran work it's a

seminal work of Luther's and most people have a hard time wrapping their hands around absolutely

let alone their head it's a tone yeah too erasmus says it was no more than a booklet right but when the

answer finally came back it was a tome yeah and so we've had um i there's a couple of

there's some audio out there that i think helps with it one um i don't know if it can still be

found at the um the camp that um johan was at as her's Herb Lottings.

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