It's a beautiful Saturday morning, everyone. We're dealing with about a foot of snow at my house.

Frank, the little asshole he is, took off on me yesterday, Friday to go coyote hunting.

And we have the Animal Whisperer, the great Chris Roe of Roe Hunting Resources that has blessed us with his presence.

I don't know about that. You're here for the ISE show, right? Yeah. You doing a seminar tonight? I did one last night and then I've got one this afternoon, yes. Gotcha. Well, man, thanks for coming in. A lot of people like our last podcast. I had a couple ass clowns messaged me and tell me to shut up and they wanted you to talk more. So I'd like

to tell you guys that I'll do that on this one. But it's probably not going to happen. When you and I

talked about this, we don't get to see each other very often. And we both like to talk a lot. And so what

we're doing is trimming down our standard conversation before the mic and then we just have that

on the mic so if you don't talk like me talking just turn off the podcast go listen to gritty or

meat eater or some talk about conservation just keep hitting that little 15 second you know for you know

fast forward flick flick flick flick flick yeah because we're going to do some bullshit in the day this

will be a good one so what uh is there anything specifically you want to start off with? Oh, I don't know if I want to, I don't know if we need to start off with anything because you brought up something about, you know, mule deer, you know, width of antlers and inside versus max spread because I you know what we were just so when I walked in

if you haven't been down here uh Aaron's got like eight million animals in the office here

of the everything piles of mule there so we he mentions he's got this deer and well how wide do

I think it is and I don't remember if it was on you know it was

on a Facebook chat form I don't know if it was I hunt Colorado or a mule deer hunt I don't know what

it was but someone said they were happy they you know they were they were really ecstatic that they

finally killed a 30 inch buck and they posted a picture of this deer and immediately immediately, there was two, there was two types of people commenting.

One, people like, dude, that's awesome.

That thing's amazing.

And then the very next comment is, that is not a 30 inch buck.

That is a bunch of crap.

And so it just absolutely, hunters just started eating their own

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