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get us get the joke out the way early this is from pete and i quite like it in newcastle he says james do you think

chris philp had the same geography teacher as Dominic Raab? So we should be looking at the Chris

Philp's story. If you're not familiar with it, I think even by the standards of current

conservative ministers, even by the talent puddle, talent puddle seems too generous, doesn't it,

when you look at some of the people that Rishi Sunak has promoted, but even by the standards, by the shallowness of the talent

puddle from which ministerial appointments are made. Chris Phelps' performance on question time

last night suggests that whatever it is below the bottom of the barrel, when the bottom of the

barrel has been scraped away, whatever

remains is now a policing minister and until very recently an immigration minister who

doesn't appear to know anything about any, Laura Trott levels of ignorance, actually, but

what I really want to do at 11 o'clock is turn that into a conversation at this point in history.

I'm not sure how to.

I am, however, pretty clear on how I'm going to turn news that shoplifting has hit a 20-year high into a conversation.

That's the offences logged.

Highest level since records began 21 years ago.

I mean, who is surprised?

Yeah, precisely. You can almost hear the tumbleweed bouncing across the studio floor. 430,104 offences recorded in England and Wales alone,

which is up 37% on the previous 12 months. And how many have not been recorded. How many offences have gone

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