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Dedicated with Doug Brunt

Chris Pavone

Dedicated with Doug Brunt

SiriusXM

Over Drinks, Books, Tv & Film, Novels, Lounge, Doug Brunt, Megyn Kelly, Author, Cocktail, Arts, Book

5.0599 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Chris Pavone: Americano (Campari, sweet vermouth, club soda, orange twist) Chris discusses his early career experiences in publishing meetings with Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis and what her work meant to him and other colleagues, the gifts his wife possesses that made her a great CEO for Penguin Random House and that also guided him to a writing career upon recognizing he did not possess those gifts, how his life as an expat inspired his debut novel THE EXPAT, how the first drafts of his novels might end personal friendships unless his wife makes some edits, the importance of writing down the flap copy of your life.

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Dedicated is expanding. We are now filming our segments. We are doing some slick new video inside

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the Sirius XM studios. So if you want to see me fixing the cocktails and having conversations

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with our awesome guests, go to YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, or the Sirius XM app, and you can

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see us in studio. Welcome to Dedicated with Doug Brunt.

0:22.1

You have just gained access to an exclusive insider's look at the lives and works of some

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of your favorite authors and hear conversations with the world's greatest writers as they

0:31.9

discuss their writing lifestyle, creative process, latest work, and behind the scenes revelations.

0:41.0

Welcome to Dedicated. I'm your host, Doug Brunt. Today we're with Chris Pavoni.

0:44.8

Chris is the New York Times bestselling author of International Thrillers. His debut novel in 2012,

0:50.6

The Expatts, won the Edgar and the Anthony Awards, one of the few books ever to do that.

0:55.8

His latest book is called The Doorman, which is getting rave reviews everywhere, including a star from Publishers Weekly, and Lee Child describes it as sensationally good.

1:06.7

Chris, welcome to the show.

1:08.0

Thanks for having. It's great to see you.

1:09.5

Great to see you again. It's been some years, as we were just saying.

1:12.6

Now, I am loving the cocktail choice today, the Americano.

1:39.2

Yeah. Which seems like sort of like a dialed back Nogroni. It is a dialed back Nogroni. It was the predecessor to the Nogroni, and the Nogroni became the Nogroni because there was an Americano, and a guy whose name was Nogroni, a count, went to a bar and said, I'd like an Americano, but put gin in it, please. And that became the Nogroni.

1:45.2

That's an amazing backstory. I had no idea. This is fantastic. I love a little cocktail knowledge.

1:57.0

I spent a brief amount of time of my life as a ghost writer. I ghost wrote two books. One of them was a book about fancy weddings, and the other was a book about cocktails.

2:07.3

And for the better part of a year, one day a week, I sat all day long with a guy who was at the time, arguably the most famous bartender in America.

2:13.9

And we talked about cocktails all day long for seven or eight hours. Well, I took notes and asked him questions.

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And then I'd leave and type up my notes into something that resembled prose,

2:25.0

and I'd do some research, like when exactly was the Spanish-American War that ended up resulting in the Cuba Libre. And so I learned a lot about cocktails during that year. I'd previously

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