Chris Pavlovski
Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin
Rick Rubin
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 February 2026
⏱️ 94 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Tetragrammaton |
| 0:02.0 | Tetragrammaton |
| 0:06.0 | By 2008 and 2009, there was no game in town to compete on video. |
| 0:27.8 | It was absolutely impossible to compete against Google and YouTube. |
| 0:32.9 | It was so difficult even years and years later, I remember when I was going around saying, |
| 0:40.1 | hey, I think there's an opportunity emerging where we can help the small guy, the small crater, |
| 0:45.4 | get distribution. I went to various VCs and pitched all of them, and nobody bit. |
| 0:53.3 | YouTube was the 800-pound gorilla and why would you start something to compete? |
| 0:58.2 | Exactly. It was impossible in their eyes to compete against YouTube. So I started Rumble in |
| 1:03.6 | 2013 entirely on the premise of trying to help these small creators like, you know, think |
| 1:10.2 | the America's Spaniest home videos type of |
| 1:12.0 | creators get their distribution so what i started to see from once google integrated youtube into |
| 1:17.7 | their search is that i started to notice that they started pivoting and the way they were |
| 1:24.0 | pivoting was that they were just like search they always promised that search |
| 1:28.1 | would be free and fair and basically they're not going to rig the search results to be biased in anything |
| 1:33.1 | they also said the same thing with youtube it's going to be just an open platform it's going to fall |
| 1:38.4 | under section 230 and we're not going to do any biases or you know algorithmic changes that are |
| 1:43.5 | going to control what people |
| 1:44.9 | see and here. And I started noticing this in 2009 and 2010 where they started picking winners. |
| 1:53.0 | And by 2013, it got to the point where it was very obvious to me that if you're a big brand, |
| 1:59.4 | if you were part of a multi-channel network, which is like, |
| 2:02.3 | you know, an umbrella that wouldn't manage a bunch of influencers, if you were a big influencer, |
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