Chris Langan vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Two Theories of Consciousness Collide

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6 • 606 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2022

⏱️ 131 minutes

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Chris Langan and Bernardo Kastrup explore consciousness, metaphysics, computation, and the nature of God, debating AI awareness, free will, and spiritual traditions while sharing personal stories of existential dread.0:00 Introduction0:00 Is LaMDA alive? Can computers be conscious?6:48 Lambda calculus, the mental world, and the physical13:08 Computation, reality, metaphysics, and Penrose25:53 schopenhauer, the will, and representation35:22 Disagreements on free will and indeterminism1:01:41 Jesus vs. Buddha vs. Vedics1:12:34 Consciousness is something we *do*? Consciousness is not important?1:16:49 Analytical Idealism and other theories1:19:35 Nondualism and Love as "fundamental" is nonsense1:24:51 Fear vs. Love1:32:49 Personal stories of existential dread from Chris and Bernardo1:45:36 Some truths will eviscerate you. Some lies will utterly deceive you.1:56:23 Plato's Cave is real, not illusory2:03:52 What does Chris value most?2:06:08 What does Bernardo value most?SPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off at https://brilliant.org/TOE- NordVPN: exclusive deal at https://nordvpn.com/theories- Manscaped: 20% off and free shipping with code [EVERYTHING20]- Wren: plant 10 extra trees at https://wren.co/theories- Trade Coffee: $30 off first order plus free shipping at https://drinktrade.com/everything- ButcherBox: free steaks and lobster at https://butcherbox.com/THEORIESRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/HsXxgQy4xLQ- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch- Physics and Consciousness Contest #PaCE1: https://youtu.be/V93GQaDtv8w- Chris Langan's CTMU YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CTMURadio- Chris' Substack: https://chrislangan.substack.com- Chris' CTMU Website: http://www.CTMURadio.com- Bernardo Kastrup's Essentia Foundation: https://www.essentiafoundation.org/- Chris Langan on TOE: https://youtu.be/N-bRM1kYuNA- BK on TOE: https://youtu.be/lAB21FAXCDE- BK with John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/UWcTmeAs44I- BK with Sabine Hossenfelder: https://youtu.be/kJmBmopxc1k- ACT Therapy podcast (Lilian Dindo): https://youtu.be/L_hI7JNsbt0- Karl Friston (Part 2): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M- Diana Pasulka: https://youtu.be/E5MuTHUbMUs- A H Almaas: https://youtu.be/6JlKf1QAvXA- Better Left Unsaid documentary: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Recently, a contest was launched for those interested in making physics and or consciousness
0:05.1	explainer videos. It's essentially the physics slash consciousness version of Three Blue
0:09.6	One Browns contest, and Brilliant has come on board to divvy 5,000 USD equally among the top five.
0:16.2	The details are linked below. If you'd like to submit your understanding or explanation of some CTMU concept
0:22.5	or how Bernardo's analytical idealism works, then feel free. Chris Langan is an autodidact who has
0:28.3	the highest reported IQ in America, and he's conceived of an extremely inventive theory of everything
0:34.1	based in language or meta-language and logic or metalogic called the cognitive
0:38.3	theoretic model of the universe or the CTMU for short. The link to Chris's CTMU YouTube channel,
0:44.2	as well as other links are in the description. Bernardo Castro is the executive director of the
0:48.4	Ascentia Foundation. Bernardo is one of the most cogent champions of metaphysical idealism.
0:54.0	That is the notion that reality is essentially mental, and he puts this forward with analytical precision.
0:59.0	The link to Bernardo's YouTube page and other links are in the description as well.
1:03.0	In this podcast, Bernardo and Chris both expound on their views on consciousness, on computation,
1:09.0	and whether materialism or idealism is most coherent.
1:12.7	My name's Kurtzimungle. I'm a Torontoian filmmaker with a background in mathematical physics
1:17.4	dedicated to the explication of the variegated terrain of theories of everything, that is,
1:23.0	primarily from a physics perspective, but as well as exploring the possible connection
1:26.9	consciousness has
1:27.7	to the fundamental laws of nature, provided these laws exist at all and are knowable to us.
1:32.3	If you'd like to hear more podcasts like these, then do consider going to patreon.com
1:36.2	and supporting with whatever you can, as support from the patrons and the sponsors are the only
1:41.9	reason I'm able to do this full time.
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