Hello and welcome to Why Is This Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

Well, we're going to try something today.

Obviously, we've been doing a fair amount of post-election

sorting, conversing, dissecting. I think it's part of the way that everyone, I'll speak for myself.

It's the way that I've been processing the aftermath, the election, sort of trying to get my

hands around what happened, why it happened.

And I do feel like I actually have a fairly clear sense of things now.

And so today we thought we tried something a little different.

Because I have a lot to say and don't want to basically talk over a guest while I just completely bulrush them with all of my takes about the election.

We're just going to do a little flipping of the script today.

And our own with pod producer, Donnie Holloway, is going to be interviewing me about the election aftermath.

So I can just offer said takes in a clear, no judgment, safe space with Donnie.

So Donnie, it's great to be doing this with you.

Welcome to your program.

How are you?

I'm good.

You know, I'm trying to, you know, part of the idea here was I've been sort of obsessively thinking through what happened, why it happened, where we are now, what to do next. And, you know, stuffing, I like to use the metaphor of the t-shirt guns that they have at the half time of like a basketball game.

Right.

The little t-shirt cannons that they, so I've just been like stuffing takes into my t-shirt

gun.

Yeah.

Like wadding up my takes, stuffing them in, stuffing them in.

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