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Spobbing, Ruins, Logan Murdock here, Roger Bell, Hey Rock. Hey Rock. Hey Rock, what are you doing? What's good? I guess what? We got a guest.

Help. You know, you're letting me know who the guest is? Logan or you?

Yes, he's one of my OGs. He used to cover the nicks for the Wall Street Journal. He used to be at a 538. Really, really smart dude.

Now he's at sports illustrated. But most importantly, and the reason why he's here is because he has a new book out called Blood in the Garden,

which is chronically the 1990s nicks, New York nicks, which I know has a very soft spot in your heart, Roger.

So you know, we had to have him want to talk about the New York nicks. We have Chris Herring and the motherfucking building. Chris, how you doing, Doc?

What's good, y'all? I'm good. I'm really good. I'm really honored to be on the podcast. I appreciate you having me.

Thanks for coming on, bro. So Roger, quick question, where we get to Chris. What is your affinity with the nicks with the 90s nicks?

Because you know, every time we talk about that, I feel like you would have played on that team. I feel like you would have thrown some balls, you know, somebody coming across the lane.

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