From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the Treatment, the Home Edition.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

My guest today are two people I'm proud to be talking to.

I guess we can say they put the

urban and urbane. I'm sorry, that slipped out. Anyway, they're the folks behind Union, L.A.,

Chris Gibbs, and Beth Burkamp. I do want to say that one of the things I think makes this place

so interesting, and I'm not going to use the word curated, but I think it's a place that's about

a sensibility. Yeah, I mean, and you could use the word curated. We do all the time, but yeah,

I appreciate that word. That's one we actually use a lot. We really just are trying to share

our sensibilities and how we've been able to navigate not only the fashion world,

but culture, you know, Gen X, downtown New York scene.

And then obviously for the second half of our lives, moving out to L.A. in a really pivotal time,

I think, you know, when we moved out here in 2003, it wasn't what it is today.

It was very different. So I think L.A.'s become quite cosmopolitan, and we've enjoyed being

able to kind of navigate that and share and learn, too, you know. And I tell people who ask, not that

you did, but we didn't bring it, but we came from the New York version of the store to the LA version of the store.

And the way we've been able to grow it in the last 10 years, I don't believe we could have done the same things in New York.

So there's definitely an L.A. sensibility, too.

Do you agree with that, Beth?

Yeah, no, I totally agree with it. with it l a has changed so much since like

we've even gotten here and um like i i'm from new york but i went to high school here in california not in

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