Hey, Triathlon Trainiacs.

Taryn here, coming to you solo.

This interview that I did is with Chris Fortune,

the founder of Seris Group.

Now, Saras, you might better know as power taps,

Cyclops, Saras bike hitches. They have a number of brands.

They've been around since the 80s when Chris and his wife Sarah actually bought a company

that they turned into what we all know now as the provider of say my P1 power tap pedals.

Very interesting company.

I met with them down at InnerBike and I was solo.

So unfortunately, NTK was not involved with this interview.

Talking to Chris, we get into why he decided to purchase Graber products,

which is what the company was originally, why he decided to do Graber products, which is what the company was originally,

why he decided to do that as opposed to starting a business,

how he started out riding bikes, delivering papers

in Chicago winters without any studded tires.

I feel for you, man, I feel for you very, very deeply.

And notably we actually get into, this kind of shocked me,

I wasn't expecting this, but I was really into it, having recently got into meditation,

how Chris has started including meditation practices in their management meetings and basically

their overall company philosophy, really, really interesting stuff. And then finally we talk about

where he sees the industry going in bikes and indoor trainers and power and like all that

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