Hi. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

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what your tour support budget is, like it's 1992, or else a scrappy upstart,

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