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Fail Better with David Duchovny

Chris Evert Hates To Lose More Than She Loves To Win

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6534 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

After an illustrious tennis career, of course Chris Evert cherishes the wins and broken records. Yet, the sting of defeat is also etched in her memory, marked by days secluded in hotel rooms with the worst missteps replaying in her mind. Life as a high-profile athlete began for Chris as a teenager, and it opened her up to intense scrutiny from tabloids. But it also brought unprecedented levels of recognition and equality to the sport, introduced her to lifelong friends, and helped her grow in countless ways. Chris’s journey has continued to offer a mix of highs and lows, and as she speaks with me from retirement, she shares how she’s found even more ways to view the world around her, from her beloved sport to her ever-evolving spirituality.  Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our shows and get bonus content. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's morning in New York.

0:02.8

Oh, God.

0:06.2

Hey, everybody.

0:07.3

I'm Mandy Patinkin.

0:08.7

And I'm Catherine Grady.

0:09.8

And we have a new podcast.

0:11.7

It's called Don't Listen to Us.

0:14.1

Many of you've asked for our advice.

0:16.1

Tell me, what is wrong with you people?

0:19.2

Don't listen to us.

0:20.3

Our Take It or Leave a Adv Device show every Wednesday, out now.

0:24.7

A Lemonada Media Original.

0:36.1

I'm David Dukovny, and this is Fail Better, a show where failure, not success, shapes who we are.

0:43.3

Chris Everett is a former professional tennis player who is known for her mental toughness and record-breaking talent.

0:49.6

Considered one of the most consistent players in the history of tennis, Chris won 157 singles titles and

0:55.8

dominated women's tennis during the 1970s and 80s. During her prime, Chris achieved an incredible feat

1:01.8

by winning at least one title in each of the four Grand Slam tournaments for 13 consecutive years.

1:08.0

But beyond her impeccable record, she played a crucial role in building the women's tennis association, the WTA, and globalizing women's tennis, which helped to elevate the sport to new levels of professionalism and equality.

1:21.5

We chat about everything from growing up in a tennis-oriented family to her iconic rivalry with Martina Navratilova, plus how she

1:28.7

overcame cancer twice. Chris opens up about what it was like leaving behind such a story career,

1:35.0

and what she's been up to since retiring from the sport, she helped catapult into the spotlight.

1:40.1

Here's that conversation.

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