I'm Alan Alder, and this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating.

One of the most basic ways that laughter brings us together is that we like to be around people who laugh, right?

We love to be around someone who makes us laugh. It just feels good. You know, we're constantly

told about how much social connection is important for our health, mental and physical and spiritual.

So I think that's one piece of laughter as connection. And the other one is the humor allows us to

acknowledge the ways in which we are so

clearly imperfect, in which we are broken and weird and get things wrong. And it makes those

problems with us, and I put problems in quotes, it makes those funny and fun. It makes the other

person laugh with us. Instead of them feeling like shameful and things that push us away, they are things that bring us together.

That's Chris Duffy, a comedian who has written a book on a favorite topic of mine, humor.

The book, titled Humor Me, is not only very funny.

It's an exploration of how laughter can root us in the moment,

make us see things in new ways, and above all, connect us. I've really been looking forward to

talking with you. You wrote about my life. Humor has saved me over and over again. I absolutely feel like you are

both in inspiration and everything that I've, I mean, this is the first time we're meeting, but every

time that I've heard you talk about humor, it feels like we are so aligned. So I'm really excited

about this conversation too. Yeah. Every page I read in every book, I kept saying, this is me. I know

this. I've been through this.

Little known fact is I actually plagiarized the entire book straight from you. So it's really generous of you to have me here.

So it's about humor. It's always a good idea to define what you mean by humor before you talk about it because it can mean so many different things.

Absolutely. And in fact, I think one of the main reasons why I wanted to write this book is because

I thought that so many people have a definition of humor that I don't agree with. There seems to be

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