Chris Cillizza: Planes, Ploys, and Popes

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9 • 719 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Charlie Sykes and Chris Cillizza discuss Donald Trump's economic U-turn with China, the murky $400 million jet from Qatar, and the crypto-fueled grift orbiting Trump's inner circle. They also discuss Biden’s awkward media tour, the troubling revelations about John Fetterman, and the stunning rise of an American pope as a global counterweight to Trumpism.

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1:40.7	I'm Charlie Sykes.
1:41.9	Welcome to the To the Contrary podcast, and I am joined by Chris Zeliza, who is a giant on substack. And, you know, one of these other guys like Julian Zelizer that I really wondered, do you ever actually sleep. So welcome to the podcast, Chris.
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