So, guys, Derek, moreplacemoredates.com. Today we're going to be talking about Chris Bumstead steroid cycles.

Dave Poulomba was talking in an interview with Chris Bumstead and Ian Vaire and Ian's, uh, Chris's coach.

And basically they stumbled across the question, like what he takes for a standard offseason cycle.

And Ian was, you know, quick to outline how Chris doesn't take that much. And, you know, he's never used more than 500 migs of tests in the off season.

I mean, obviously, you know, speaking for Chris, obviously, as you know, with his autoimmune, stuff like that, never any point where he's pushing anything ever, whether it's crap or off season or anything.

The average person would laugh.

They would laugh.

You wouldn't believe it. Offseason, if he's doing more than 500 milligrams of tests by itself, that's an aggressive

off season.

Really?

Wow.

And no, he's never done growth hormone in his life.

I'll speak for that for him, never touched it.

Wow.

Doesn't use insulin, never has used it.

He's using no drugs other than, you know, a half-ccice a test twice a week.

That's it. Like, my training wouldn't have changed at all, but like I didn't want to push anything

without a prep coming because of my health stuff.

So, like, of course, we keep training because that's what we love to do.

But, like, I don't want anything else to have to change from my, like, kind of coasting,

being healthy throughout the year.

Yeah. Chris has always been, I mean, I can speak because I'm obviously doing his protocols. I mean, he's never needed much. Like, you know, it's always been very conservative and we've just kind of keep it there because he's continually succeeded with what we've been using. So there's no reason to push it. And then obviously when the, you know, the autoimmune kind of came more into play, then that was even more of like a, you know, take a step back and just be like, okay,

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