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From Wondery, I'm Mike Corey, and this is Against the Odds.

Over the past two episodes, we've told the story of 26 elementary school children and their bus driver, who are kidnapped on their way home from school in Chauchilla, California.

The kidnappers then trapped them underground in a buried truck.

Through their own acts of bravery and perseverance, the driver and all 26 children escaped to safety. Later, police would arrest the three men responsible.

For the survivors and their families, the abduction would leave an indelible mark on each of their lives.

On today's show, we are joined by one of those survivors, Jennifer Brown-Hydde.

Jennifer was just nine years old when she and her brother Jeff were kidnapped. Jennifer's here with us to share her story and tell us how the experience changed her life. Our conversation is coming up next.

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Jennifer Brown Hyde, thank you so much for joining us here on Against the Odds.

You're quite welcome. Thank you for having me. The show is all about telling true stories and it is special to be able to sit down and have conversations with people who were who were there, who lived them.

And I know these experiences can cause trauma in people's lives and no doubt it's been similar for you. But I'd like to start off with asking you how was your life before the kidnapping? What was your childhood like?

Well, I grew up in a very small town. Chao Chila is was at the time in 76 what I call small town USA. Everybody knew everybody. Nobody locks their doors. I had a very all American chair free life.

I was in the parents, both were employed and worked outside the home. And my brother and I every summer got the honor and the privilege to go to summer school. Not because we needed to make up schoolwork. It was more of a recreational program where we got to do arts and crafts and go on field trips and spend the summer with our friends.

And those field trips was to the local pool, right? And that was the day July 15th, 1976 where you were in your brother Jeff, you were nine, he was 10. You were coming back from the pool that day.

We had gone to this woman pool. That was our swim day. And so I had on my pink velour bikini with fish on it. And we had actually finished the afternoon at the swimming pool.

We come back to the school to pick up the other students to take our bus route home.

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