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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Chosen In Him or Chosen To Be In Him?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2020

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Brian Wagner is back with Leighton to discuss John Piper's Calvinistic interpretation of Ephesians 1.

To watch the original video from Dr. Piper go here: https://www.desiringgod.org/labs/were...

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Sociology 101.

0:14.8

As you can see, we got Brian Wagner back with us today.

0:17.5

As we promised, we're going to continue to go through the John Piper's interpretation of

0:23.4

Ephesians chapter one. If you remember last time we were doing part five, it was. He also had a

0:30.5

part six and now into part seven. We skipped over part six because there wasn't really a lot more

0:35.9

meat there than what was in the first one.

0:38.7

And so we're going to just go right into part seven with that. So Brian, welcome. Thanks for

0:43.2

jumping on with me. So here's the last minute. Thank you. Welcome to you too. Thanks, guys,

0:49.0

for coming on and watching and being a part of this. I think we'll have fun here. But remember, as we go

0:56.8

through this, we're still showing respect to John Piper, but we disagree with John Piper. And I think as

1:02.9

you listen to him talk, at least Brian and I both had the feeling like it's almost like he sees

1:08.3

it, he sees our vantage point, but doesn't want to see it again i'm

1:13.9

reading into his words i can't say that that's the case but just you you be the judge as we

1:19.0

listen to this and you tell me if if some of what he says doesn't seem to really indicate

1:24.1

our perspective even more so than the perspective he's trying to advocate for.

1:28.9

And oh, by the way, notice the question that he asks here right at the beginning.

1:35.5

It says, we are chosen as sinful or innocent.

1:41.9

See that?

1:42.8

We are chosen as sinful or innocent, question mark. And so ask

1:48.6

the self the question, if we're chosen before the foundation of the world, before we have

1:52.8

done anything good or bad, then that would be we're chosen when we're neither done anything

2:00.8

good or bad. So if you're going to use

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