When his wife became pregnant with their fourth child Greg panicked, but a focus on the family counselor put everything into perspective.

He said, the first thing you need to realize if kids are a blessing, or all of the

blessing, that their gifts from God, and the second thing you said was, kids value

relationships, not stuff. Greg and his wife found the encouragement they needed and today they have a happy thriving family of seven children.

We have been really influenced by the culture and by just the kind of overall negativity about kids and to hear from someone, you know,

just godly truth that kids are special, that they're wanted and that they're a blessing was huge to us.

I'm Jim Daly and we love kids.

Let's work together to give more families hope, like Greg's.

When you donate today, your gift will be doubled at

Focus on the Family.com slash gift.

Thank you for downloading the Focus on the Family Marriage Podcast.

You can find more relationship insights at focus on the family.

dot com slash marriage podcast.

How hard are you willing to slash marriage.

How hard are you willing to work for your marriage?

That's an important question for you to think about and answer honestly, especially if things

aren't going well for you and your spouse. It seems that far too

many couples are just giving up. They're not willing to stay in the game and really put in the

effort. I'm John Fuller along with Greg and Aaron Smalley

who are in charge of our marriage department here at Focus on the Family

and we've been reviewing a conversation the last few episodes

that Jim Daly and I had with Leslie Vernick,

...